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Making a keyboard and mouse for PC gaming in the living room is hard. Just ask the infamous company Phantom Entertainment which—after blowing tens of millions of dollars trying and failing to release a PC-based console—settled on releasing the ergonomic monstrosity that was the Phantom Lapboard instead. Since then, few companies have taken the challenge on. Sure, Valve had a stab at it with its Steam Controller, and while that functions as a good substitute for a keyboard and mouse in certain games, it’s not quite the same as tapping away on some WASD keys.

Fortunately, thanks to the buoyant PC gaming scene, there’s been a renewed interest in developing a keyboard and mouse that work well on a couch—and as someone who built a gaming PC specifically to use in the living room, only to resort to using an Xbox controller, I was particularly keen to try them out. Enter the Corsair Lapdog “gaming control centre” and Razer Turret, two very different takes on a keyboard and mouse for the lounge.